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It WOULD be like walking around on stilts or tip-toes.
Technically possible, but not very adaptable or well balanced. We’d expect to see Phoebe overbalancing forward or backward more often.
Human feet are evolutionarily designed for our needs.
…is what I’d say if we were unrealistically expecting a comic to make perfect sense all the time. :p
Evolution’s more like a blind watchmaker. It works, but not like crafting a round peg for this round hole, but by taking a hammer to the square peg that’s actually there.
I just thought of an option for Daphne for Halloween. I am thinking she could just put on a yellow coverall and grab a wrench and she’s ready, maybe add a hardhat and safety glasses, but Daphne’s feet and Florence’s are arranged differently.
The way these stories play out, you wonder if anyone EVER has seen the horns and tail, or the doggie ears.
If it became canon that all our inhuman characters traits were invisible to the mortal eye, and they looked like regular humans to everyone but the audience, there’s be very little on-page evidence otherwise.
Little, not none. A recent panic over Satan waking up with no shadow comes to mind.
I’ve described before that what’s in operation is, to my mind, a SEP (somebody else’s problem) field, as per Douglas Adams. People see the horns, or the dog girl, or the pointy ears, but they dismiss them all as someone else’s problem. They assume the dog girl has a very good reason for being a dog girl, and don’t want to get involved.
Tracee would notice Satan’s umbral variation, though, because he quite literally IS her problem.
Given Phoebe’s other, quite notable assets, it’s not surprising to me, at least, that the horn and tails go unnoticed. If there were a soundtrack to the strip, panel 3 would be The Commodore’s Brick House.
Also, I’m pleased to note that (once upon a time on the original Puck website from 1999) Phoebe’s official measurements were listed as 36-24-36. I knew what I was doing even then.
The funny part is, there’s no mention of a ‘fall’ or even a ‘satan’ until the King James version was written to give the church more power over an illiterate people. Well, illiterate in that most didn’t read the form of Latin the liturgy was written in and nobody had a desire to teach them.
The ‘satan’ in the Garden was a snake, period, cursed to spend its days slithering on its belly and biting people for its impudence.
The ‘satan’ of Torah was G-d’s ‘accuser’, his right hand man, a Crown Prosecutor charged with testing peoples faith and bringing them to stand trial if they were found lacking.
The PR people took over after the exiles to Babylon brought a lot of those ideas back with them when they returned.
About the worst thing to ever happen to xtianity was dropping half of the original writings at the council of Nicosea because Constantines wife didn’t like them…followed closely by the King James rewrite of what was left.
You are not wrong. Christianity (the many-headed hydra that it is) is really a ship of Theseus (or more a V’Ger from ST:TMP) where successive centuries cut, trimmed, added and massively altered the base concepts into a strangely unique and wholly different concoction from what it once was. This isn’t bad, necessarily, but it is interesting.
While I wouldn’t be surprised if half of original writings was dropped, I’m not sure we can trust Voltaire that it happened on the council of Nicaea (I think it happened before actually), and I’m not sure where you got the idea Flavia Maxima Fausta Augusta had anything to do with that, especially considering the first council happened just year before her death.
But yeah, the whole story of Lucifer starting a war in heaven and retreating to hell afterwards seems to have very dubious sources … although it’s very nice story.
Yes. No. Maybe. But that’s not why you make the appeal. You make it ’cause you’re trying to make them think that my doing what you want reestablishes coolness. Also to make a Barney Stinson quote.
From the internet: Most angels in the Bible have the appearance and form of a man. Many of them have wings, but not all. Some are larger than life. Others have multiple faces that appear like a man from one angle, and a lion, ox, or eagle from another angle. Some angels are bright, shining, and fiery, while others look like ordinary humans.
Conclusion: Phoebe’s appearance is consistent with the Bible, which, frankly, would allow for almost anything. However, the Bible is also consistent in forbidding the worship of an Angel. The Park People could admire Phoebe, and look to her for guidance. Even implore her for help. But definitely not praise her as a God. It’s a fine line, granted.
@SalemCat, I’d heard that all the angels in the Bible are male. So when I went to NYC’s Met Museum I checked out medieval and other old paintings. Sure enough, they all appeared male, although they tended to look effeminate. I believe this was meant to signify purity and holiness above humans’ character.
@SalemCat, that’s very true that veneration can be very close to worship. The First Commandment is supposed to take care of that, but you know people believe what they want to. BTW, according to Wikipedia, traditional angels are neither male or female. (I guess they’re above all that. 😉 )
“A man sees what he wants to see, and disregards the rest.”- Simon and Garfunkel. What else can I say, I don’t underestimate the power of denial. I’m not saying Phoebe is bad, but she’s not an angel either.
She knows exactly what she’s saying. But since she’s the daughter of the devil, who was cast out of heaven, is she an angel as well?
She might technically qualify.
Wait. Who was/is Phoebe’s mom?
Will we ever meet her?
Phoebe’s mom is an immortal version of Elizabeth Taylor who is currently married to zombie Richard Burton. This is canon. And it’s very dumb.
Dude, have you ever met a dumb cannon that hasn’t worked as intended?
Kaboom.
Since her mom is human she would technically be a Nephilim
I was just remembering the late Alan Rickman and one of his roles. No, it wasn’t Hahns bubby.
Well that IS the best form of correct!
Yeah, she is a descendant of a fallen Angel, so technically correct.
Good Omens logic. That qualifies.
Daphne’s correct, but for the wrong reasons. Biblical angels are nightmare fuel.
They do have to start their messages with “Be not afraid”. Mostly because it’s hard to get them to listen when they won’t stop screaming.
Fair enough.
Not to take away from Phoebe, but I’m really liking Daphne’s hair in these panels.
Especially how it frames her face in panel 1.
It’s a hard hairstyle to draw, but when it works, it works.
She is a fallen angel so they are not wrong technically.
Exactly, after all Satan/Lucifer was an angel before his fall.
The question is whether she’s actually fallen. I mean, yes, the ‘sins of the father’ and all, but she never fell.
It’s a bit difficult to respect the opinion of a guy who looks like Torgo…
Yeah, religious zealots need better hats.
I knew not having cloven feet would make it hard for someone in her family to be identified…just thought it would be her father.
See, drawing a bipedal figure with hooves is just … it ever looks right to me. I appreciate it in concept, but lack the ability to pull it off.
That’s all right. You’re a better artist than I am, Gunga Din.
It WOULD be like walking around on stilts or tip-toes.
Technically possible, but not very adaptable or well balanced. We’d expect to see Phoebe overbalancing forward or backward more often.
Human feet are evolutionarily designed for our needs.
…is what I’d say if we were unrealistically expecting a comic to make perfect sense all the time. :p
Nothing makes sense here. That’s the only consistency I aim for.
Evolution’s more like a blind watchmaker. It works, but not like crafting a round peg for this round hole, but by taking a hammer to the square peg that’s actually there.
Daphne, if they don’t notice that you are a bipedal talking dog, why is it a surprise they don’t see Phoebe’s horns and tail?
Stop observing the obvious!
I just thought of an option for Daphne for Halloween. I am thinking she could just put on a yellow coverall and grab a wrench and she’s ready, maybe add a hardhat and safety glasses, but Daphne’s feet and Florence’s are arranged differently.
It’s a costume, it’ll work.
Would the baby get to be Helix?
The way these stories play out, you wonder if anyone EVER has seen the horns and tail, or the doggie ears.
If it became canon that all our inhuman characters traits were invisible to the mortal eye, and they looked like regular humans to everyone but the audience, there’s be very little on-page evidence otherwise.
Little, not none. A recent panic over Satan waking up with no shadow comes to mind.
I’ve described before that what’s in operation is, to my mind, a SEP (somebody else’s problem) field, as per Douglas Adams. People see the horns, or the dog girl, or the pointy ears, but they dismiss them all as someone else’s problem. They assume the dog girl has a very good reason for being a dog girl, and don’t want to get involved.
Tracee would notice Satan’s umbral variation, though, because he quite literally IS her problem.
They’re together. He is.
They also aren’t noticing Daphne’s ears and nose, so . . . love is blind?
Blind devotion. It’s a thing.
An angel from heaven? She’s literally the spawn of Satan.
Are they mutually exclusive?
Given Phoebe’s other, quite notable assets, it’s not surprising to me, at least, that the horn and tails go unnoticed. If there were a soundtrack to the strip, panel 3 would be The Commodore’s Brick House.
Not very angelic. But very funky.
Also, I’m pleased to note that (once upon a time on the original Puck website from 1999) Phoebe’s official measurements were listed as 36-24-36. I knew what I was doing even then.
Have mercy
Same measurements as Ginger from “Gilligan’s Island”.
The funny part is, there’s no mention of a ‘fall’ or even a ‘satan’ until the King James version was written to give the church more power over an illiterate people. Well, illiterate in that most didn’t read the form of Latin the liturgy was written in and nobody had a desire to teach them.
The ‘satan’ in the Garden was a snake, period, cursed to spend its days slithering on its belly and biting people for its impudence.
The ‘satan’ of Torah was G-d’s ‘accuser’, his right hand man, a Crown Prosecutor charged with testing peoples faith and bringing them to stand trial if they were found lacking.
The PR people took over after the exiles to Babylon brought a lot of those ideas back with them when they returned.
About the worst thing to ever happen to xtianity was dropping half of the original writings at the council of Nicosea because Constantines wife didn’t like them…followed closely by the King James rewrite of what was left.
You are not wrong. Christianity (the many-headed hydra that it is) is really a ship of Theseus (or more a V’Ger from ST:TMP) where successive centuries cut, trimmed, added and massively altered the base concepts into a strangely unique and wholly different concoction from what it once was. This isn’t bad, necessarily, but it is interesting.
While I wouldn’t be surprised if half of original writings was dropped, I’m not sure we can trust Voltaire that it happened on the council of Nicaea (I think it happened before actually), and I’m not sure where you got the idea Flavia Maxima Fausta Augusta had anything to do with that, especially considering the first council happened just year before her death.
But yeah, the whole story of Lucifer starting a war in heaven and retreating to hell afterwards seems to have very dubious sources … although it’s very nice story.
Daphne, man, be cool. Why can’t you be cool? You used to be cool.
Oh, that’s a double-split. O.K.
Was she ever cool?
Yes. No. Maybe. But that’s not why you make the appeal. You make it ’cause you’re trying to make them think that my doing what you want reestablishes coolness. Also to make a Barney Stinson quote.
From the internet: Most angels in the Bible have the appearance and form of a man. Many of them have wings, but not all. Some are larger than life. Others have multiple faces that appear like a man from one angle, and a lion, ox, or eagle from another angle. Some angels are bright, shining, and fiery, while others look like ordinary humans.
Conclusion: Phoebe’s appearance is consistent with the Bible, which, frankly, would allow for almost anything. However, the Bible is also consistent in forbidding the worship of an Angel. The Park People could admire Phoebe, and look to her for guidance. Even implore her for help. But definitely not praise her as a God. It’s a fine line, granted.
I like the style of your scholarship.
@SalemCat, I’d heard that all the angels in the Bible are male. So when I went to NYC’s Met Museum I checked out medieval and other old paintings. Sure enough, they all appeared male, although they tended to look effeminate. I believe this was meant to signify purity and holiness above humans’ character.
@SalemCat, that’s very true that veneration can be very close to worship. The First Commandment is supposed to take care of that, but you know people believe what they want to. BTW, according to Wikipedia, traditional angels are neither male or female. (I guess they’re above all that. 😉 )
Other mystical beasts have horns and a tail and Daphne should hardly be one pointing this out since she is a lupo form.
“A man sees what he wants to see, and disregards the rest.”- Simon and Garfunkel. What else can I say, I don’t underestimate the power of denial. I’m not saying Phoebe is bad, but she’s not an angel either.
The perfect quotation for this scenario. Paul and Art. Such geniuses. And way better than Paul Blart.
Thanks EG, I’m glad I didn’t waste all those many hours listening to their music in my youth. And now for some more amateur theology… just kidding. 🙂
Just thinking of that scene from Almost Famous: “Look at their eyes! They. Are. On. DRUGS!”