Puck 278

Chapter: The Tale of Two BlondesCharacters: Hotdog Guy Miranda PuckTags: fwinkie snack cake
I know that St. Paddy’s Day has passed, but I gots nothing new yet. Next week, though, brings April Fool’s Day, and I’ve got something special planned. Tune in then! And in the meantime… CLICK HERE TO VOTE FOR PUCK! THE LEPRECHAUN TOLD YOU TO! As for this comic… If you’re interested in learning more about the wrong kind of white people, I highly recommend checking out Christian Lander’s book Stuff White People Like, which provides numerous educational insights on the topic. Puck, you must understand, is a bit of an unusual case, in that she’s a bit of a ‘right kind of white people’ poser. She dresses like the right kind, and tries to periodically act like the right kind, but deep down, she’s wrong in every conceivable way. And God bless her for that. Oh, and if you’re not from North America, I’m not about to explain the significance of the Twinkie (which I’m blatantly parodying) because no one born outside this continent can ever understand such a weird, fascinating cultural icon. Suffice it to say that no food inspires more nostalgic longing and simultaneous revulsion than the Twinkie. It’s a golden sponge cake with a sweet whipped cream filling, but it’s so much more – and less – than that. When the manufacturers were experiencing financial trouble a few years back, they actually stopped production. Twinkies suddenly disappeared from store shelves, and the whole continent was struck with an oddly poignant mixture of panic and relief. They came back a few months later, of course. These kinds of things always do.

106 Comments

    • ElectricGecko

      Well, it was bound to happen sooner or later.

      • pat

        No, I mean what Puck meant by not being the right kind of white people.

        • ElectricGecko

          The more common, harsher term starts with a ‘white’ and ends with a ‘trash’. Though Christian Lander extends that, stating that the right kind of white people are always university-educated, left-leaning hipster-type academics who shop at Whole Foods and don’t follow sports. And Puck would almost qualify, were it not for her assaulting people to get to the Twinkies.

          • pat

            Odd. I didn’t quite see her as leaning towards the hipster style. Do they even eat hot dogs and sausages? Or pork products for that matter?

          • ElectricGecko

            Not hipster, necessarily, but prep? Preps were related to, though not necessarily the progenitors of, the hipster movement.

          • SotiCoto

            I’m not sure I understand these social dynamics…

            The “wrong type of white people” are the sort who drink off-brand budget alcoholic beverages, right?
            The sort of supermarket equivalent of bootleg hooch.

            I actually knew someone in Uni whose entire thing was that he was a total toff ironically emulating “the wrong kind of white people”. So I’m guessing he somehow paradoxically occupied both types in a kind of split-yet-combined state. Schrodinger’s Caucasian.

    • Peya Luna

      me neither. guess one has to be american and/or at least ate one twinkie in ones life….btw, i heard they also come chocolate-covered. another web comic is all about them.. googling i even stumbled over choccolate covered twinkies wrapped in crisp bacon(!!)

      • ElectricGecko

        They don’t have the chocolate type on sale up here, but there’s a subculture of people who take Twinkies and dip them/fry them/wrap them in bacon. I can’t deny that I want to try that.

        • DLKMusic

          Deep fried twinkies are AWESOME!!!

          But then again, deep fried shoe leather is still pretty good!

        • Marduk

          That culture is called the South, where everything is deep fried. Pickles, snack cakes, supposedly even sticks of butter if you go far enough Mexico way without actually crossing the border. Some of it is really good, the rest make you question what kind of God would allow such abominations to exist.

          • Peya Luna

            thats nothing compared to scotland. they invented the deep-fried mars bar. its an unholy calory-bomb that seduces you to the dark side with its awesome scent. seriously, there´s no resisting it! you know its unhealthy as hell, but you come back for more anyway.

          • ElectricGecko

            The wrong kind of white person inside me is totally on board with that.

          • Ace of Diamonds

            And I’m a Texan who thinks all that frying is disgusting.

            Seriously, it’s making me feel sick just thinking about it.

          • ElectricGecko

            Okay, real talk? The Canadian equivalent to the frying is ‘sauce’. Especially out in the western provinces. By ‘sauce’, I mean any liquid or slime that you can douse your food in (e.g. cheese sauce, ketchup, mayo-like goo, hollandaise, etc.). It’s … an acquired taste.

        • “They don’t have the chocolate type [of twinkie] on sale up here,”

          Sure they do. Maybe not under the “twinkie” brand name, but i’m sure you’ve seen something like these before:
          http://glutenfreeonashoestring.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/DSC_00361.jpg?bd9bbc

          (incidentally, I’m from Kitchener; about an hour’s drive from you).

          • ElectricGecko

            Ew. Gluten-free? That’s like another way of saying ‘no happiness’. Even WITH the chocolate coating.

      • pat

        Chocodiles would be the brand name if memory serves correctly.

  • Greg White

    It’s been a while since we last saw the hotdog guy.

  • Kimmy

    I just snorted hot mint tea. I’m related to the wrong type, its why we left those states, and that is an awesome way to make the joke. Hot-dog guy always gets it right!
    In related news, my sinuses are clear now.

    • ElectricGecko

      Well, if you’re drinking hot mint tea, it’s a good sign that you’re the right kind! Though we’re all related to the wrong type, somehow.

  • Wrong Type of White People- With Baby Onboard!

    I like that third panel, the different angle and foreshortening came out well.

    Also, is Fat Albert in panel two or is he just dressed like him?

    From what I remember about the Great Twinkie Scare the real problem wasn’t the manufacturer (which changed owners) but rather the bizarre delivery scheme Little Debbie had in which each of its various snack cakes had to be delivered by a different truck. The new owners weren’t going to do that and had to renegotiate with the driver’s union.

    • ElectricGecko

      Heh. Fat Albert. That wasn’t even conscious, you know. I just drew that guy, and while coloring him, I felt the need to make his shirt that color. I think we all now know what subliminal forces were at work. Though this rendition looks much thinner.

      And Twinkies are Hostess. Hostess went into legit bankruptcy, when another company bought it and restarted Twinkie production. Interesting fact, though: in Canada, Twinkies are made by Saputo in Montreal (under the Hostess brand) and they NEVER stopped production, which is why, for a time, Canada was the only place you could get a Twinkie.

  • I’m from Sweden but I understood the reference, having eaten a Twinkie once (10 or so years ago)… I don’t really recall the taste but I do recall people running around like headless chickens over them. I bought one to test and was… Impressed but at the same time not. It was just… Weird. Eh.
    Also, Hot Dog Guy is back. Yay! (Other than Satan, he’s my favorite non-main character; as in, more of a support character).

  • Look, sometimes you have to cut someone a second smile for hostess.

  • Well, it beats the startling ephiphany Puck had to clean up in last week’s strip.

  • Don’t worry about being the “wrong type of white people” Puck. NOBODY’s the “right type of white people”, even those who claim to like all that stuff on that list.

  • Sigurther

    She’s not white. She’s Elven-American.

  • Herns Hound

    I wanted to be the “right type” of white person, but I just couldn’t get used to the stick up my bum, the dog turd under my nose, or the undeserved sense of superiority.

    So I’ll just be happy with my occasional deep-fried Twinkie and potty-humor and not worry about those “right types.” (Trust me Puck, you’ll be better off just being true to yourself.) lol

  • Mike Williams

    I spent about a minute or so just being caught up in the detail put in those first two panels alone. Always love it when you go that extra mile with your visuals.

    Man, the made-up products!

    • ElectricGecko

      I drew multiple cereal boxes and products. Some of them didn’t even make it into the panel. I’m not always the smartest in terms of planning that sort of thing.

      • Marduk

        I’m surprised you don’t make that a vote incentive. There’s lots of strips where you’ve mentioned details getting cut for size and I for one would like to see them. Unless they get posted on a deviantart page or something like that that I haven’t noticed.

        • ElectricGecko

          Yeah, no, I’ve never really posted them anywhere. That’s not a bad idea, to show some as voting incentive pics, though I’m not sure how many people would want to see them. Most of the details aren’t terribly interesting, really. It’s more the kind of situation where I spent a while drawing a nicely pleated skirt on Puck, and even more time warping a tartan onto it to make it look suitably plaid, and then in the final copy, a speech bubble gets placed over it. Don’t think anyone’s lining up to see the skirt, but when it took me a while to draw, it’s a bit of an annoyance.

  • DLKMusic

    I dunno, Gecko…. I always pictured Puck as more of a “Ding Dongs’ kind of girl.

    • ElectricGecko

      Up in Canadia here, they’re called ‘King Dons.’ I’m not lying. And they are vastly, VASTLY inferior to Vachon’s Jos. Louis, a French-Canadian snack cake that rocks the house. I would’ve made this comic all about Jos. Louis but only 4% of my readership would’ve understood the ref.

  • Marduk

    For the sake of Puck’s mental health I think she needs a less judgmental therapist. For the sake of this comic though Hot Dog Guy can never be replaced.

  • Golux

    Love the “Bum Wiper” toilet paper.

    Reminds me of this BBC 7 series where this guy gets insanely rich writing totally truthful ads. One of the catch phrases:

    “Toilet Paper — You wipe your bottom with it”

  • Greg White

    Puck and the hotdog guy have been patient and therapist since college.

  • Leer

    Y’know, it ain’t just a southern thing. To the south a couple hundred miles from where I live you have your typical Swamp Yankee…

    …then of course, where I now live, on the northern Maine/New Brunswick border you have your Acadians. They are definitely not your typical New Englanders, nor are they your Quebeckers. They’re an entirely different breed of cat to anything I met in America.

    And as for wrong type of white folk?

    Their “national” dessert is the Whoopie Pie, bright red hot dogs are desirable and even the poorest guy up here *has* to own a giant pickup truck that probably cost more than his house did. Down south it was Caddies, up here it’s BigFoot.

    They could have filmed Deliverance up here – only change they’d have needed to make would have been to have swapped that boy’s banjo with a fiddle.

    I’ll probably be lynched now…

    • ElectricGecko

      You can find backwoods types everywhere. And you can find the wrong type of white people all over America and Canada. I have no problem with that. As long as they don’t attack me when I’m trying to buy my snack cakes.

      • I don’t know about “wrongness”, but I always figured Newfies (people from Newfoundland province) were our Canadian Redneck equivalents.
        strong, funny accent = a different strong, funny accent.
        Cattle ranching = Fishing
        Throw a boot and you’ll hit one who’s on Welfare = Tend to call it “the dole”, but yeah, about the same. 😛
        Insult them, and they may actually shoot you = Insult them, and they… will laugh loudly, slap you on the back, and buy you a beer. (’cause if they change your opinion of them, it’s their win, isn’t it?)
        Line dancing = stand up comedy festivals.
        Don’t need no fancy college education to slaughter cattle = Don’t need one to gut fish neither.

        • (I should have done better breaking those up into separate lines. 🙁 )

        • ElectricGecko

          True, but I consider rednecks not to be definitively from one section of the U.S. of A. You can get rednecks in every state. I’m not going to knock the Newfies, especially now that they’re rich with oil money. Canadians have redneck equivalents in every province. Ours just generally don’t have the funny accent. We leave that to the Newfies.

  • Greg White

    I’ll bet that when Miranda grows up she’ll bring back the Spike TV series Deadliest Warrior.

  • Susan Schroeder

    Hooray, I got rid of “Ads by SASA” and now I can comment again. Oh, the wrong type of white people down here are called rednecks

    • ElectricGecko

      I have no idea what that is or why it would keep you from commenting, but I’m glad the problem was solved. And yeah, redneck is a specifically southern term. We’ve got a different term (which is also used in the South) that applies just about everywhere, but it’s not as polite.

      • Susan Schroeder

        It is a type of malware that puts ads and hyperlinks in almost any site you go to. I got it downloading an update for OpenOffice. I have no idea why I thought I needed the upgrade, since mine was working fine, but, something for nothing, right? Wrong! It was horrible. A friend finally put the kibosh on it, and now, strangely enough, I can comment again. Hooray!

        • Mahnarch

          Interesting.
          I think Ghostery is blocking me from commenting on MegaCynics.com, even though I whitelist all my comics.

    • pat

      Some rednecks are okay. They seem to be neat the Beverly hillbilly stage. However there are people who are worse in behavior, attitude and Outlook on life. . .

  • Krylon

    Getting between a woman and her preferred food item can be surprisingly dangerous.

    Puck is an extreme case, of course, only by degree. Recently, we ordered lunch at the office, and I was in charge of calling the delivery service. When that easy-going, really friendly colleague from HR found out that her french fries had been delivered without mayo, I was really glad that I could prove I had ordered them with mayo.

    It was fun, though, to watch her call the delivery service and complain. Slightly scary, but mostly fun.

    • French fried with mayonaise? Ick. 🙂

      • ElectricGecko

        Don’t knock it until you try it, man. Don’t knock it until you try it.

      • dralou

        Can I ask what kind of mayonnaise you tasted, and if you ever tried to make your own ?

        If you didn’t: it’s pretty easy with an electric mixer, and since it’s made with basic ingredients, it’s more a matter of you mixing them to match your liking than anything else… my biggest advice: be sure you like the mustard you’ll put in it. If you don’t, you won’t like the mayonnaise either. I make mine with wasabi or strong Dijon mustard.

        If you did try and still hate mayo, please excuse my forwardness.

  • Grawnque

    A note seems appropriate here (if I may steal somebody else’s joke from long past) – It’s my experience that the “right type etc., etc. are just as fanatically addicted to Twinkies as are everybody else, and it’s for a very simple reason: All Americans, right or wrong, have a daily minimum requirement of stuff that is bad for them!

    • ElectricGecko

      True. But they eat them quietly, privately, in secret shame behind closed doors.

      • Dragon

        I’m from the good ol’ U.S of A and I don’t actually like Twinkies very much. They’re ok, I don’t hate them, they’re just meh. Maybe I was adopted from Switzerland or something.

        • ElectricGecko

          Well, they’re not really my thing. I think I mentioned in another comment, but there’s a Quebec snack cake company called Vachon and they make amazing (and very unhealthy) snack cakes that are always worth the calories. Twinkies, by comparison, are kind of bland. Still, after all the talk of Twinkies this week, I have to admit that it was hard to resist buying a box this weekend at the grocery store. Hard. But not impossible.

  • Dennis

    Twinkies…A proud member of the four major food groups: Sugar, Salt, Fat, & Alcohol.

  • Greg White

    Xander on Buffy the vampire slayer shows a fondness for Twinkies in the season 2 episode Inca Mummy Girl.

  • Zero

    Gee Puck, it took you THIS LONg to figure it out?

    and hell yeah, twinkies are awesome. and terrible. deliciously tiny shadows of their former “grab-a-can-of-whipped-cream-and-fill-it-more” selves…

  • Rock

    Does an ancient faerie of lore actually count as ‘white people’…? õ_o

  • Dragonstar

    Anyone else notice that Puck’s wearing her old university uniform?

    • ElectricGecko

      Almost! Just missing the big bow at the front of the vest. My wife always hated that bow. Perhaps that’s why I edited it out.

  • Mahnarch

    My local grocery store just hired a new manager and they re-arranged all the merch.

    For a few days during the transfer, the cereal WAS next to the toilet paper! 😀

  • Sp♠de

    You almost got it right. A significant amount of people actually protested and got twinkies put BACK into hostesses lineup when the company was floundering.
    Thats just the level of unhealthy food addiction we have over here in the great us of a. But the story does not stop there, oh no my Canadian friends.
    Deep fried twinkies are now a fairly commonplace fair food. As is deep fried pepsi, oreos, and assorted candy bars.

    • ElectricGecko

      I actually found that the Canadian Twinkies are made by an entirely separate company (which has the rights to the name in Canada) that never closed, so the Twinkies never disappeared off Canadian store shelves. Though real Twinkie experts apparently insist that the Canadian product is nothing like the American product — even though it looks pretty much the same.

      On that front, this comic is wrong because the box depicted here is modeled on the American Twinkie box. The Canadian box is more old-fashioned and boring.

  • PorkTugese

    Is she technically even white, since she’s a fairy?

    • ElectricGecko

      I suppose you could argue against it, but I would argue that if it looks like an apple and tastes like an apple, I’m calling it an apple.

  • ComedyHobo

    Hey EG, one does not “make” an epiphany. You can HAVE an epiphany though. On the bright side epiphanies rarely feel like “sh#@#ing a chainsaw,” when you have them. Unlike babies, according to what you said your wife said.

  • L.K Crocuta

    I don’t care for Twinkies, but I like to eat frozen Cool Whip right out of the carton with a spoon, so I’m pretty sure I count as ‘the wrong type of white people’. I also ate bologna and gingersnap sandwiches as a kid. You fold the slice of bologna in quarters, stick it between two crunchy gingersnaps and dig in. That’s probably more weird than white trash, though.

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